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@johnonolan

Congrats, what great news! Welcome to the Fediverse!

A lot of people have asked about Ghost and ActivityPub (especially in wake of WordPress using AP), very happy that those people now have an option!

@johnonolan@mastodon.xyz what is tumblr doing in that network graph? there's still zero support for AP there, and news about it have dried up a while ago

@johnonolan
Given that they took all of Tumblr for AI training with no previous notice, my hope is that they continue to stay away
@privateger

@jherazob @privateger I agree, that wasn't great - I posted about that myself at the time, too

@johnonolan Seems great but I still have no idea what Ghost is or does...?

@jwcph @johnonolan

Ghost is a free open source blogging platform. You can host it yourself free of charge, but the developers also offer a paid service for those who don't want to self-host.

With Ghost getting ActivityPub support, it means people on Mastodon etc will be able to follow Ghost-powered blogs.

@FediTips @jwcph @johnonolan

But what does that mean? Obviously, I wouldn't be able to (nor want to) read a blog in my mastodon or threads (which, incidentally is preferably a browser tab instead of a smartphone app anyways)... so - what does activity pub offer other than a means of "oh, a new post, I should open it in my browser and read it" which is just a click away anyways?

@tfrank_de @jwcph @johnonolan

At least on WordPress, when the blog publishes an article it appears in your Mastodon etc timeline, and you can comment on it by replying to it directly in the timeline.

I don't know how Ghost is going to do it, but at least on WordPress the owner of the blog has a choice of ways to display the article, either full text, or an excerpt with a link, or just a link. If it's full text, Mastodon hides most of it with a "read more" button to reveal the whole thing.

@tfrank_de @jwcph @johnonolan

p.s. There's no limit on how long text can be on Mastodon. The only character limit is for writing your own posts, but displays of posts can be any length. (Though, beyond a certain limit it triggers the "read more" button to keep the timeline readable. But when you click "read more" the entire text is shown within Mastodon itself.)

@FediTips @jwcph @johnonolan Well, my articles have much text, many big photos, sometimes tables etc.... Nothing meant for or good to read inside any social media UI stream anyways.

@FediTips @jwcph @johnonolan I guess then it's nice to have but still not terribly different as linking a new post in the network of choice manually (or even automatically).

What would be nice would be indeed, if conversations originating from such a post/link would be a) centralized and b) linked constantly to the article as a reference. Because I rather have the comments below my articles. So every subsequent reader (also after months) can see those and partake.

While a random...

@FediTips @jwcph @johnonolan

... comment on twitter here, 2 others on Mastodon and maybe 5 on facebook don't know from each other and are just a blip in time, not contributing to the knowledge or the body of discussion below the real source.

_That_ would be the thing which would be cool. If some application of ActivityPub could enable this.

@tfrank_de @jwcph @johnonolan

"Because I rather have the comments below my articles."

That's what happens.

If someone replies on Mastodon, that reply appears as a comment below the article on the blog's own website.

That's how PeerTube videos handle Mastodon replies too, they appear as comments below the video.

@tfrank_de @jwcph @johnonolan

For example, if you look at this video on PeerTube, the comments are mostly replies to it on Mastodon, but they are displayed below the video as if they had been posted on PeerTube:

fedi.video/w/nogjev1WCcxCpQPqe

The idea of the Fediverse is that content can be interacted with from different platforms, instead of having to be on the same platform.

Also, the blog or video channel are Fediverse accounts that you can mention in posts, with their own profiles etc.

@FediTips @jwcph @johnonolan Ahh, ok... that's nice indeed, then. :)
Wonder whether that's the case for Wordpress, too? And if my wordpress hosted blog could benefit from it... ahhh - need to investigate :)

@johnonolan ok great, now can you add passkey support so I don’t have to go to my email to log in to Ghost sites? My favorite local online paper uses Ghost and it’s always a terrible experience to get logged in.

@johnonolan @FediTips Absolutely brilliant news and watching developments with great interest 🙏🏽

@johnonolan woo!!!

Also I really laughed at this FAQ 😆

@jj @johnonolan chuckled on that too. I'd prefer cat videos but what can we do 😁

Also til what Ghost is. Never heard of her 😅

@johnonolan Can we get an official #Mastodon account for #Ghost. Really don’t want to stay on X for relevant information via social media when it come to Ghost. Pls 🐶??

@blackvoid yes. It will be powered by Ghost itself :)

@johnonolan @blackvoid When you hear these kind of news it just makes your day! (and #passkey support is coming!!!!!!)

#Ghost, No1 platform.

@johnonolan

Congrats on the announcement, but I doubt if AP is the "largest open publishing network in the world."

Also size isn't the only thing that matters, btw. 😀

@johnonolan

That's fantastic news! But please, instead of adopting that meaningless corporate Fediverse logo made by Meta use actual community adopted symbol instead.

@didek @johnonolan this. Fedi already has a logo. Threads is just trying to put itself in the center of a network that's been around for over a decade.

Plus, the Threads-promoted logo looks like a goatse. There, I said it.

@rysiek @didek@101010.pl @johnonolan

Yup, totally agree, the Fediverse logo is :Fediverse: and it gets across what this place stands for.

Threads' logo seems to be trying to replace the Fediverse with some kind of centralised concept where Meta is at the centre and everyone else orbits around them.

If you need high quality colour or monochrome versions of the Fedi logo, they're here:

Colour:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil

Mono:
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil

commons.wikimedia.orgFile:Fediverse logo proposal.svg - Wikimedia Commons

@didek @johnonolan i was wondering what that weird symbol was. the pentagon symbol is *the* Fediverse symbol, and it's just going to hurt recognizability to use anything else, *especially* the logo pushed by some corpo that claims to represent us but doesn't

@CAFE The MIT license is more permissive than the GPL, so freedom is already guaranteed. Enjoy!

@johnonolan amazing! Great step forward John 👌🏻

@johnonolan May I ask if you have a timeline for the rollout? Will there be a beta version—and can I start using it, like now? :)

@ijm The first place we share that info will be in the newsletter which you can sign up for on activitypub.ghost.org :)

@johnonolan Any recent updates? The last newsletter looked cool, and I'm happy to be be an early-adopter/guinea-pig if that'll help.

@ijm we send newsletter updates every single week :)

@johnonolan aahh, minor gripe; the representation of Fediverse as an icon as demo'd via the 404Media sign up page.

This has been discussed within the traditional Fedi spaces earlier this year, but many are not enamored with Meta's icon depicting the Fediverse, and would prefer a variation closer to the 5-pointed pentagon/star.

@johnonolan Was it ever "open"? Perhaps the deep web was not sin sword for a while.

@johnonolan we’d love to have you back on @changelog sometime! Maybe this is a good excuse to do it soon?

@jerod @changelog Sounds like fun :) happy to! Grab me on john@ghost.org any time

@johnonolan I love this concept in theory, but having a dark-theme-only page explaining it has inherent accessibility problems and is difficult or impossible to read for many people, including me. Please, please don't do this.

@johnonolan Great news!

>There are multiple ways of supporting gated access to content in ActivityPub, and we're going to do our best to create a seamless experience both for publishers and for readers.

I've built an ActivityPub powered content subscription service called Mitra. Right now it uses direct messages to distribute subscriber-only posts. This method is compatible with most Fediverse micro-blogging services, but doesn't scale, so I'm doing research on federated private groups. I also wrote (and implemented) a specification for federated payments: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/0837/fep-0837.md

Looking forward to working together on standards for subscription services

Summary card of repository silverpill/mitra
Codeberg.orgmitraFederated social network

@silverpill How cool, thank you! Will check it out :)