@baggetun And yet it can keep on going.

I am also running an Apple machine right now from 2015 to reply to you. It was stuck on Catalina. I switched to Linux, though it too can run the latest macOS if you use #OCLP.

It is not obsolete yet, despite what Apple thinks. It runs great. I did replace the battery (which is a job and a half, lots of screws and it was also glued in place) but it now gets around 7 hours of battery life again. I also replaced the charger (it had a cable chewed up by my cat) with a USB-C to Magsafe 2 cable that have it pluged into a cheap 65W USB-C PD charger.

We really need to cut back on #eWaste. Apple, a $3.59 trillion company with massive profits, could do a hell of a lot more here. If they supported them longer I am convinced that people would keep using their old machines or pass/sell them on to someone who might. There is a lot to one of these laptops and they sell millions. It would make a difference. In addition, things like the battery should also be easier to replace and more standardised.

@rubenerd the UI flatness that happen in last 10 years is terrible. lack of differentiation between active and static elements has amazing darkpattern possibilities...

my late-2011 mbp runs manjaro for some time now and i've slapped sonoma on it too but just for meaningless stuff like icloud synchronization of other devices.

while open core legacy patcher #oclp allows to install newer macos versions, the old hardware makes sadly a huge difference on use :c

At least one other user who somehow got past the WiFi problems on install (maybe they used alt networking connection via WiFi or ethernet adapter ) having harware issues with the Camera and Keyboard backlight (both of which work with Ubuntu). The post is two years old and these issues might now be resolved but given my WiFi installer issues, I could not count on it. So this does not seem worth the hassle when Ubuntu works out of the box and even macOS Ventura could be installed (again with no obvious downsides) via #OCLP.

I'm putting this down as a fail for Google. Still at least they tried, unlike Apple, who consider this machine eWaste.

FWIW, this old Intel MacBook did get Safari updated yesterday, after using #OCLP to update to Ventura.

Had it been down to Apple, this machine could have been a botnet now for all they care.

@matthias I have found @zenbrowser to be a breath of fresh air.

I used to be a BIG Apple fan, but but ever since they pivoted to services, the newer OS versions keep taking more control & privacy AWAY from me, and I refuse to buy newer Macs as they are non-repairable and non-upgradeable.

I still run macOS for the #Affinity suite, but it's become pretty rare. #UltramarineLinux is now my daily driver. It runs better than macOS under #OCLP, and my computers are MINE again.

@toddalstrom I don't dare to use #OCLP on my 2017 MacBook Air

@flameeyes I understand, set it and forget it is ideal for the family we are the unpaid (but hopefully not unthanked!) IT support for.

I’ve been running #oclp on my own MacBook Pro 2015 and it hasn’t stopped working even once, and if the Discord is anything to go by, a relatively flawless experience is common. However, issues that break your boot are also common.

If you know anyone who wants a project Mac, hopefully you can donate her old iMac to them or repurpose it yourself.

Happy 2024

@risottobias This is the one thing I really dislike about #apple : quick/planned hardware #obsolesence.
They are doing rather good on #ios (way better than #android support) but this can be improved.
On #macos, #OpenCoreLegacyPatcher (#oclp ) proves hardware support is voluntarily removed with each new release.
On both sides, they can provide longer software support even if some new features are not available on older hardware. 1/

@RockyC yeah, I knew that, thanks, but:
- this model has the glued-on screen which looks really scary to remove
- it was easier to add a fast external drive
- #oclp installation onto a Fusion Drive is pretty complex
- I use the Fusion Drive as a Time Machine drive now

I’d rather have replaced the internal stuff, but too much faff for this model