>> #Palestinians never fought for freedom

They never fought for freedom despite being under the #TurkishYoke since 1517 the way #Arabs under #Hussein did in 1917.

That’s how Arabs earned their freedom, but Palestinians never did.

Instead, egged on by Arab neighbors, they let the neighbors fight #inTheirName ever since 1947 (and later #Hamas) without taking their destiny in their own hands

@ajaykaul10 @ekis @Properganda @tartley @Lane @chiclet @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan

@ekis

>> I accept Israel exists

Are you #Palestinian and do you have support of the majority of #Palestinians on the above issue?

If not, then your voice in this respect does not matter.

It is up to Palestinians to take control of their own destiny instead of letting #Hamas fight #inTheirName

See hashtags #PermanentStateOfWar and #inTheirName if you want to see what Palestinians have done to themselves.

@tartley @Lane @chiclet @Properganda @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan

@junesim63

>> Distinguished Israeli genocide historian, Omer Bartov, writes about the complete indifference of most Israelis to what is being done in their name.

Wow, I had NEVER imagined the hashtag #inTheirName to apply in this context.

I have hundreds of posts with this tag for the other side, but the repeated use of the phrase “in their name” in the story linked to in the above post comes as a gut punch and is shaking my deeply held beliefs

@wdlindsy

>> "decision about #Israel-related citations… means that one of the most prominent & longstanding #Jewish advocacy groups… – and one historically seen as the leading #US authority on #antisemitism – is now grouped together with the #NationalInquirer, #Newsmax, & #OccupyDemocrats as a source of propaganda or misinformation"

#Wikipedia #ADL #AntiDefamationLeague #Israel #antisemitism #BDS #BDSMovement

Want to tag this with #ShamAntisemitism and #inTheirName for no particular reason.

@mogus

>> Correct

Correct re Bibi

>> The only way forward for #Israel is to start treating #Palestinians like human beings, instead of threats that must be exterminated

Wrong! There are multiple ways forward:

#Hamas could surrender and release ALL #hostages

#Palestinians could disavow Hamas instead of letting them fight #inTheirName

Palestinians could RECOGNIZE Israel

Also, leave #extermination or #eliminationist rhetoric to Hamas, and chose a better word, say, "contained?"

@acarson

>> #Israel should not be asked to accept a #Palestinian state immediately after #Oct7

No ally, incl #US asked for that

>> definitely not without conditions being met on the Palestinian side

Definitely.

>> Israel already tried this, up to and including complete disengagement from #Gaza, and it got Oct7 for its trouble.

It is the fault of #Palestinians — and NONE other — to let #Hamas fight #inTheirName.

@tobie1

@acarson

Longtime readers of my posts know that I've always been supportive of #Israel's right to defend itself from #Hamas, and I've always blamed #Palestinians for their own misfortune (see #inTheirName).

#Netanyahu lost my support by revealing his INTENT to occupy #Gaza permanently (or indefinitely). He has also lost support from his OWN war cabinet.

#faitAccompli

He has been defying allies for MONTHS— cap in one hand, #middleFinger on another https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111853207587158209

@tobie1

@kravietz

Both #Netanyahu and #Haniyeh have a perverse incentive to maintain #permanentStateOfWar in #Gaza and both are collectively responsible, with #Palestinians being the losers. #inTheirName

ICC prosecutor said that he had “reasonable grounds to believe” that #Sinwar, #Deif and #Haniyeh were responsible for “#warCrimes and #crimesAgainstHumanity” — including “the killing of hundreds of #Israeli civilians in attacks perpetrated by #Hamas.”

@israel @palestine

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/20/world/middleeast/icc-hamas-netanyahu.html?smid=tw-share

#EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip

A global diplomatic edifice that keeps the #Palestinians in a permanent holding pattern of misery stemming from defeated #Arab war efforts, where the Palestinians themselves weren’t even always the central actors in the descent to war or the principal combatants who lost them, is unlike anything the international community has attempted in other conflicts.

#permanentStateOfWar #inTheirName

#EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip

In each of the 3 wars, the #Palestinian cause was taken up in a larger global struggle : first, #WorldWarII, then the #ColdWar, then the #jihadist war against free societies.

#Palestine has served as an excellent rallying cry for OTHERS [who only fight #inTheirName].

For #Palestinians, the result has never been good.

@knowprose

Supporting #Palestinians is supporting #Hamas by proxy, as it is THEY that have let Hamas fight #inTheirName instead of denouncing them & distancing from them. They need to take their destiny in their OWN hands with a fresh manifesto along the lines of #inOurName.

Please click through both hashtags if you want more discussion of why Palestinians are mostly responsible for their own plight, and how blaming others will not ameliorate their situation.

Also see #UncannySimilarities

@TonyStark

The only way #Palestinians can redeem themselves is by dissociating themselves from #Hamas, and instead of letting Hamas fight #inTheirName, declare their own #inOurName manifesto just as forcefully.

#SocietiesAreNotHomogenous

Note to #BDS, BDSMovement, #BDSHorseshoe: Not all #Jews think alike

@Dinger @billiglarper @marius_gs

>> Hamas knows it can’t win

>> Bibi is disgracing his country


>> Fuck Hamas

>> but they are resilient

They are crumbling.

>> and so are Palestinians

They have been the biggest losers since #WWII, are the biggest losers now, and will be in worse shape than they were in on #Oct7 if they don't disavow and distance themselves from #Hamas.

See hashtag #inTheirName for why they are in such a sorry situation.

@TruthSandwich @ayoubabedrabbo

>> #AOC aide wears T-shirt proclaiming "Netaji #Bose was not a '#NAZI Collaborator'"

He was. AOC's aide is doing what all NAZI-simps do — disavow truth & engage in revisionism.

If Bose had succeeded, #India would be a vassal state of #Japan

No country fights for another #inTheirName without exacting a price. When American's invited #French to fight #British, they specifically excluded French troops & territorial claims.

Bose didn't do any of those things.

@lukevanin

#SouthAfrica once again, fighting for #Palestinians #inTheirName, appeals to #ICJ to block #Israeli offensive against #Hamas in #Rafah, regardless of their own role in #Sudan.

It's #genocide only if #Israel is doing it.

@Nochem @lukevanin @TruthSandwich @serge

After rejecting the #TwoStateSolution, they invited their #Arab #Brothers from neighboring states to fight #inTheirName, and lost — REPEATEDLY

They had agency. Do NOT absolve them of their role in this conflict and put it on your jewish cousins

>> Israelis have no legal right to confiscate land and expel people from their homes because someone else lost a military conflict.

Not someone ELSE.
#Palestinians themselves.
And their neighboring brothers.

@lukevanin

>> If it’s ok to be anti-Zionist then it’s ok to be anti-Palestine

I have no position on either anti-this or pro-that

I do have clear position on other issues:

— that nations have a right to defend themselves when attacked

— that nations ought to respect a world body such as #UN (#GWB famously flouted it in #Iraq invasion)

— that parties who lose in a war may NOT dictate terms

— that inviting foreign powers to fight #inTheirName can only hurt them

@TruthSandwich @serge

@TruthSandwich @8124

>> keeping a war going long enough for Trump to win it for him.'

ALL of them, including #China, #Russia, #Iran, #NorthKorea (#CRINK), #Hungary, #Turkey, #Qatar want a #permanentStateOfWar, and they ALL get what they each covet when #Trump wins.

Notice that #Palestinian #Arabs are conspicuously missing from the above list. They are foolish pawns that let others fight #inTheirName.

Just as in the past, they will not only come back empty-handed, they will also be worse-off

Before #Oct7, #Iran's #AxisOfResistance-backed #Houthi militants used to fight #Arabs and #SaudiArabia

After #Hamas attacks, they suddenly switched sides and now claim to fight in solidarity #Palestinian Arabs #inTheirName

Who else thinks this is not a #coincidence, but that somehow #Turkey and #Qatar are involved, given their #RedSea stakes?

Turkey does not recognize Hamas as a #terrorist organization

Ismail #Haniyeh, senior political leader and current chairman of Hamas lives in Qatar