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Brad LinderMINIX Z150-0dB is a slightly faster fanless mini PC (nowThe MINIX Z150-0dB is a fanless mini PC that packs an Intel N150 Twin lake processor and support for up to 32GB of user-replaceable memory and up to 4TB of PCIe 3.0 storage into a compact body that measures 123 x 120 x 46mm (4.84″ x 4.72″ x 1.81″).It’s an updated version of the Z100-0dB that launched in late 2023, and as the name suggests, the biggest change is that the new model […]<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/fanless/" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/mini-pc/" target="_blank">#miniPc</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/minix/" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/minix-neo-z150-0db/" target="_blank">#minixNeoZ1500db</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/minix-z150-0db/" target="_blank">#minixZ1500db</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/twin-lake/" target="_blank">#twinLake</a>Read more: <a href="https://liliputing.com/minix-z150-0db-is-a-slightly-faster-fanless-mini-pc-now/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://liliputing.com/minix-z150-0db-is-a-slightly-faster-fanless-mini-pc-now/</a>

TronNerd82<a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@netbsd</a> <a href="https://exquisite.social/@thomholwerda" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@thomholwerda</a> <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/@washbear" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@washbear</a> If it interests anyone to know, I just got pkgsrc-2024Q4 to successfully bootstrap on Minix. I know Minix uses NetBSD userland so it's not that interesting, and development on it is basically dead, but at least it's (slightly) useful information :)Maybe someday Minix development can pick back up<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a>

Brad LinderLilbits: EU orders Apple to open up iPhone and iPad key technologies to competitorsThe European Union is telling Apple that, in order to comply with the Digital Markets Act, the company needs to allow competing device makers and app developers to access core iPhone and iPad technologies including peer-to-peer WiFi connection, NFC, proximity-triggered device pairing, AirDrop, AirPlay, and media casting.Apple isn’t particularly happy about any of that, but European […]<a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/android/" target="_blank">#android</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/apple/" target="_blank">#apple</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/eu/" target="_blank">#eu</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/european-union/" target="_blank">#europeanUnion</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/leaks/" target="_blank">#leaks</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/lilbits/" target="_blank">#lilbits</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/linux/" target="_blank">#linux</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/linux-terminal/" target="_blank">#linuxTerminal</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/mini-pc/" target="_blank">#miniPc</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/minix/" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/minix-z150-aero/" target="_blank">#minixZ150Aero</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/samsung/" target="_blank">#samsung</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/samsung-galaxy-tab-s10-fe/" target="_blank">#samsungGalaxyTabS10Fe</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://liliputing.com/tag/twin-lake/" target="_blank">#twinLake</a>Read more: <a href="https://liliputing.com/lilbits-eu-orders-apple-to-open-up-iphone-and-ipad-key-technologies-to-competitors/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://liliputing.com/lilbits-eu-orders-apple-to-open-up-iphone-and-ipad-key-technologies-to-competitors/</a>

Pierre LecourtMINIX Neo Z300-dB : la version Core i3-N300 du MiniPC fanless Le MINIX Neo Z300-dB reprend les grandes lignes de son prédécesseur sous Intel N100 mais bascule sur le plus haut de gamme des Alder Lake-N.... <a href="https://oisaur.com/tags/minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a href="https://www.minimachines.net/?p=129699" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.minimachines.net/?p=129699</a>

ArtemisI still think every so often how government actions made modern Unix possible. Anti-trust intervention against AT&T made original Unix source-available. University of California (Berkeley) started their derivative which would become BSD. Vrije Universiteit gave Andrew Tannenbaum resources to develop MInix. Helsinki University gave Linus Torvalds resources to develop Linux.<a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/Unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Unix</a> <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/BSD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#BSD</a> <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://toot.cafe/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a>

Pierre LecourtMinix NR660 : un premier MiniPC AMD Ryzen 5 6600H pour Minix Le Minix NR660 change les habitudes de la marque en employant un processeur AMD Ryzen, une première pour le constructeur.... <a href="https://oisaur.com/tags/minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a href="https://www.minimachines.net/?p=132573" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.minimachines.net/?p=132573</a>

Pierre LecourtMINIX N512 : un nouveau MiniPC plus musclé que d’habitude Le Minix N512 change des classiques de la marque qui, depuis plus de dix ans, ne propose que des minimachines entrées de gamme.... <a href="https://oisaur.com/tags/minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a href="https://www.minimachines.net/?p=132576" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.minimachines.net/?p=132576</a>

Lorry2/ This is why I have never been a fan of Linux, people should be writing their own OSs 😜As an aside, I found this <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USENET" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USENET</a> thread with some familiar names from 1987 about porting Minix to the Atari - I assume that would have been the ST then.<a href="https://www.linux.co.cr/unix-source-code/review/1987/0108.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.linux.co.cr/unix-source-code/review/1987/0108.html</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DEC</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Digital" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Digital</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PDP11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PDP11</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LSI11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LSI11</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OperatingSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OperatingSystems</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Decent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Decent</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Capacitors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Capacitors</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USENET" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USENET</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Atari" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Atari</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AtariST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AtariST</a>

Lorry1/ Just because, here's my LSI-11 desktop - It works, they used much better capacitors in those days.Way back when, the LSI-11 was often used to teach people Operating Systems and Compiler Design, and in my CS degree in 1986 we'd fiddle with <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a> on these things, and deal with re-writing different low-level <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/UNIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#UNIX</a> things. Life was much easier with only 50 instructions to work with. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DEC</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Digital" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Digital</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/PDP11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PDP11</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/LSI11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LSI11</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/OperatingSystems" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OperatingSystems</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Decent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Decent</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Capacitors" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Capacitors</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/USENET" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#USENET</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/Atari" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Atari</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/AtariST" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#AtariST</a>

joostruis14 years ago, I attended <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FOSDEM" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FOSDEM</a> and saw this insightful talk on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a>. Still relevant today! Wishing you all a great and inspiring weekend!<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3KuE7UjGA" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx3KuE7UjGA</a>

Marcel WaldvogelUnd nachdem <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Linux</a> gerade die 40-Millionen-Zeilen-Grenze überschritten hat, ist es wieder höchste Zeit, sich auf die Ursprünge zu besinnen.<a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a> <a href="https://waldvogel.family/tags/Spielwarenmesse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Spielwarenmesse</a> <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix_(Betriebssystem)" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix_(Betriebssystem)</a>

LtningI had <a href="https://weirdr.net/snac?t=minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a> on another 286 for a while, and there's some 16-bit "port" of Linux that is not as old as it should be. And of course the venerable OS/2 1.x, and a few actual <a href="https://weirdr.net/snac?t=unix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Unix</a> variants as you point out. I didn't know about V6on286, that's a beautiful little nugget, thank you! All of those things are absolutely wonderful and make many of todays software developers look ... spoiled? What I want, however - and what I love doing - is making this old hardware do stuff its makers never dreamt of, things that are as far removed from their time as possible. That's why I will, if <a href="https://weirdr.net/snac?t=netbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NetBSD</a> permits, run bleeding edge BSD on a 286-on-486steroids, and why I run web+ftp+irc servers (yes, multitaskign) on one 286 and multiple BBS nodes on a 386 - like one used to do, of course. I cannot state often enough how amazing it is that there's still software developed today that will work under such constraints. <a href="https://weirdr.net/snac?t=runbsd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RunBSD</a> <a href="https://weirdr.net/snac?t=endofrant" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EndOfRant</a>

jhambyI don't dare to make any sort of proclamations about whether a 32-byte message would be better for cache utilization, but I think we can agree that if you're going to need 34 bytes, you may as well go up to 64 bytes and add some new fields and increase the size of the one standard MINIX message type with chars from 14 bytes to a whopping 44 bytes.Any <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a> or <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/microkernel" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#microkernel</a>-related things you're interested in knowing about?

jhambyMore <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a> questions:4) speed: message passing. Does MINIX use appropriate-sized messages? Should it use async message passing or is the binary signal-type notification sufficient? Any "inner loop" optimizations for x86, other platforms, or generically?5) what has changed between the MINIX 3.1.0 printed in the 2006 3rd edition of Operating Systems: Design and Implementation (which I own) and the current branch in the MINIX 3 git repo? Are those changes improvements on stability?

jhambySo here are a couple of <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a> quality-of-life questions:1) SMP: how difficult is it to add reliable SMP to the microkernel (and do the service daemons just magically work or if not, how much work is that?)2) speed: are there any areas that could be sped up by a useful amount, like thread-local variables? Is it easier to port Linux perf or Sun dtrace?3) what work needs to be done to make it reliable on newer emulated PCs in VirtualBox VMs and presumably therefore in newer PCs (AHCI etc.)?

jhambyBehold the power of MINIX 3.4.0 with the classic twm window manager. MINIX has two test suites, the first for POSIX compliance, and the second are the KYUA tests based on NetBSD:<a href="https://wiki.minix3.org/doku.php?id=usersguide:postinstallation" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://wiki.minix3.org/doku.php?id=usersguide:postinstallation</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a>

jhambyWell, it looks like I appeased the MINIX microkernel god(desse)s and my build is continuing to proceed.Folding@Home defaults to using 1 less thread than the # of threads your CPU has, which typically gets rounded down to the nearest even number from what I've seen. So it's using 14 CPU threads, plus the GPU, leaving 1+ CPU thread free for a MINIX VM.There's a thermal budget the active CPU cores have to consider, but I'm not in a hurry, as long as the build builds. 🤞 <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MINIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MINIX</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/VirtualBox" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#VirtualBox</a>

Thomas NOËLÇa va quand même vraiment plus vite qu'un raspberry !Pas mal de soirées de bricolage en vue, on va voir jusqu'où j'arrive encore à aller en auto-hébergement malgré ma rouille en administration système et réseau.<a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/minipc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minipc</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/z100" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#z100</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/fanless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fanless</a> <a href="https://mamot.fr/tags/autohebergement" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#autohebergement</a>

Pierre LecourtLe Minix Z100 : Le MiniPC Intel N100 fanless 16/512 Go à 239€ Le Minix Z100 est arrivé assez tard sur le marché par rapport à de nombreux concurrents mais il s'est démarqué par quelques atouts.... <a href="https://oisaur.com/tags/minimachines" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minimachines</a> <a href="https://oisaur.com/tags/minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#minix</a> <a href="https://www.minimachines.net/actu/minix-z100-123383" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://www.minimachines.net/actu/minix-z100-123383</a>

Wintermute_BBS<a href="https://mastodon.social/@eschaton" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@eschaton</a> I'm curious: what's the target <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/m68k" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#m68k</a> platform you intend to build <a href="https://oldbytes.space/tags/Minix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Minix</a> for?

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