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zamundaaa.github.io/colormanag by @Zamundaaa is a really nice post about #HDR luminance on #wayland. The corollary is that we have a protocol where the distinction between SDR and HDR content does not exist. It all makes perfect sense to me theoretically, but I am greatly interested in seeing how it will fare in practice with end users.

Xaver’s blog · On brightness, and calibrating your displaysMany people are, understandably, confused about brightness levels in content creation and consumption - both for SDR and for HDR content. Even people that do content creation as their job sometimes get it really wrong.

The reason I am looking into #automation with #gnome / #ubuntu is because I'm building a prototype control panel to further streamline my multi-monitor/multi-workspace workflow.

If it looks blunt, that's because I'm not an artist, design will come later.

Right now I can switch workspaces, activate windows and control media playback.

Works better on #x11 than #wayland though. It's one of the few places where I I am thinking: "This would have been a lot easier in Windows".

I'm looking into some #automation on #ubuntu #gnome desktop. I figured I'd be able to do everything using #dbus.
It works great for media control but not so much for virtual desktop / window management. I can use #wmctrl to nativate between virtual desktops but window management doesn't work on #wayland. Then there is #ydotool which also doesn't seem to work well.

Now I can
- Control media via dbus
- Switch workspaces via wmctrl

But I feel there has to be a better way?

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@thomasadam @peppe Thanks for that! I totally forgot about the decorations topic, which is of course very relevant, it means even jumping through the hoop and implementing a #wayland compositor, you can only deliver part of the functionality (and almost none of the looks) of your window manager.

But even with that issue solved, I would really dislike wayland's design. Although I *do* think that most of #X11 core drawing is obsolete and useless (mostly for the missing alpha channel), I think a display server should offer drawing facilities. Replace X with something dropping lots of cruft (indexed palettes, COMPOUND_TEXT, etc), instead incorporate extensions that everyone needs these days, extend #XRender (now as part of core) to offer more drawing primitives, etc ... you could have a replacement for X11 that's worth dealing with. And window managers could still be separate clients.

So from my experience, #Wayland on Nvidia is about 99.99% good. I'm still having one strange issue with gaming, some games will randomly lock up,where they never did on X11. I did a lot of research on this, and everything points to the way Wayland hands over full screen control to games, and nvidia doesn't do it quote right.

I'm going to stick with Wayland for now, mainly because I'm on fedora 42-beta right now (had the same problems in 41.) and hope drivers fix the issue someday.
#LinuxGaming