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daniel:// stenberg://I'll talk <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/http3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#http3</a> again this week and I made this new slide explaining the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> "journey"Did I miss any major milestone I should add?

Jan SchaumannSystem AdministrationWeek 7, HTTP and CDNsAfter discussing the DNS, we now move on to <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTTP</a> and HTTPS. While we don't have videos for these sections, hopefully the lecture slides can help you get an idea of what we're covering there. We review the basic HTTP protocol, peek at <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> and H3, and talk about load balancing and content delivery networks:<a href="https://stevens.netmeister.org/615/07.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://stevens.netmeister.org/615/07.pdf</a><a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SysAdmin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SysAdmin</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/DevOps" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DevOps</a> <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/SRE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SRE</a>

Inautilo<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Development" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Development</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Analyses" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Analyses</a> HTTP/3 is everywhere but nowhere · Be patient if you want end-to-end HTTP/3 for your app <a href="https://ilo.im/162rz8" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://ilo.im/162rz8</a>_____ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HTTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTTP</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HTTP2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTTP2</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/HTTP3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTTP3</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Quic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Quic</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SSL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Browser" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Browser</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WebDev" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebDev</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Frontend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Frontend</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Backend" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Backend</a>

Pope Bob the UnsaneIs it <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a>'s time to shine?!‽

Stéphane BortzmeyerJe crois qu'on peut en faire une loi : tout protocole Internet peut tourner au-dessus de tous les protocoles de transport que produit l'<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IETF</a>. Là, on a <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/EPP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EPP</a> sur <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> : <a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-regext-epp-quic/</a>

daniel:// stenberg://Technical Advisory – Hash Denial-of-Service Attack in Multiple <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> Implementations<a href="https://github.com/ncc-pbottine/QUIC-Hash-Dos-Advisory" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/ncc-pbottine/QUIC-Hash-Dos-Advisory</a>

Hacker News 50Go-msquic: A new QUIC/HTTP3 library for GoLink: <a href="https://github.com/noboruma/go-msquic" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/noboruma/go-msquic</a> Discussion: <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43098690" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43098690</a><a href="https://social.lansky.name/tags/quic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quic</a>

ϺΛDИVTTΛHWe have a canary build of our <a href="https://fosstodon.org/@nlnetlabs" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@nlnetlabs</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/unbound" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#unbound</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/docker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#docker</a> image with <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/quic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quic</a> support available for testing, yay! 💚➡️ madnuttah/unbound:canary-quic ⬅️<a href="https://github.com/madnuttah/unbound-docker/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/madnuttah/unbound-docker/</a><a href="https://hub.docker.com/r/madnuttah/unbound" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://hub.docker.com/r/madnuttah/unbound</a><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/selfhosting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#selfhosting</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/homelab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#homelab</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#opensource</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#foss</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dnssec" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dnssec</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/doq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#doq</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/dnsoverquic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#dnsoverquic</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/quictls" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quictls</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/distroless" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#distroless</a>

daniel:// stenberg://Let me explain the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> API move and what it might mean. For <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/curl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#curl</a> and for others.<a href="https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/02/16/openssl-does-a-quic-api/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2025/02/16/openssl-does-a-quic-api/</a>

daniel:// stenberg://The state of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> support in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/curl" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#curl</a> is not for the faint of hearts. The current API development is what I put in the lower part of the rightmost column.A blog post will follow to explain some of this.

daniel:// stenberg://An <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ngtcp2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ngtcp2</a> lead developer told me they have no current plans to adapt to the new <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> API because of its lack of 0RTT support and the "pull model".Of course someone else can go ahead and write it and ideally someone from <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> does it, for dogfooding purposes.I have no heard of any other QUIC stack either having adapted to it yet.

daniel:// stenberg://I asked the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> team about their new <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> API:Out of curiosity: since you decided to provide a quite different API than what was once offered to you and what several QUIC stacks are already using. How did you come up with this API?<a href="https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/26683#issuecomment-2654928163" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/26683#issuecomment-2654928163</a>

daniel:// stenberg://I now hope for <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> to work with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ngtcp2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ngtcp2</a> to make sure <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> works fine in that combo. Then we can leave the slow OpenSSL-QUIC implementation in its dusty corner and perhaps see rather wide HTTP/3 + curl adoption coming up.

daniel:// stenberg://<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> suddenly decided to provide an API for others to do <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> with it: <a href="https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/26683" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://github.com/openssl/openssl/pull/26683</a>

daniel:// stenberg://It is now *six* years ago since I first blogged about how the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> API situation was going to slow down QUIC (and HTTP/3) deployment. Unfortunately I was entirely correct.<a href="https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2019/01/21/quic-and-missing-apis/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2019/01/21/quic-and-missing-apis/</a>The follow-up post a few years later on OpenSSL's decision to be a laggard:<a href="https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/10/25/the-quic-api-openssl-will-not-provide/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2021/10/25/the-quic-api-openssl-will-not-provide/</a>

Paolo MelchiorreTIL Network protocols Sans I/O ⚡“… network protocol implementations written in Python that perform no I/O (this means libraries that operate directly on text or bytes; this excludes libraries that just abstract out I/O).” 🤯Read the reference page 👇 <a href="https://sans-io.readthedocs.io/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://sans-io.readthedocs.io/</a><a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Reusability" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Reusability</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Python" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Python</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FastCGI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FastCGI</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/HTTP2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#HTTP2</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/H11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#H11</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/IRC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#IRC</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OAuth2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OAuth2</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OAuthLib" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OAuthLib</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/WebSocket" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#WebSocket</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SOCKS5" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SOCKS5</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/RFC2217" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RFC2217</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SerialOverIP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SerialOverIP</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/EPICS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#EPICS</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/FIX" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FIX</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/LanguageServerProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#LanguageServerProtocol</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SMTP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SMTP</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/DBus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DBus</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/ThorlabsAPT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ThorlabsAPT</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/Matrix" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Matrix</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/SSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#SSL</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/TLS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#TLS</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/CPython" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CPython</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/multipart" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#multipart</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/formdata" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#formdata</a>

LavX NewsIroh: Revolutionizing Peer-to-Peer Networking with QUIC and Hole-PunchingIroh introduces a groundbreaking API for seamless peer-to-peer connections, leveraging QUIC for optimized data transfer. With its innovative hole-punching capabilities and a suite of pre-existing prot...<a href="https://news.lavx.hu/article/iroh-revolutionizing-peer-to-peer-networking-with-quic-and-hole-punching" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://news.lavx.hu/article/iroh-revolutionizing-peer-to-peer-networking-with-quic-and-hole-punching</a><a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#news</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/tech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#tech</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/Rust" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Rust</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> <a href="https://mastodon.cloud/tags/PeerToPeer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#PeerToPeer</a>

Harry Sintonen<a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/OpenSSL" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenSSL</a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> implementation performance is "abysmal" compared to competing solutions such as <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/ngtcp2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#ngtcp2</a> (ngtcp2 is 2-4x faster) and consumes tons (up to 25x in some situations) of memory. (*)I still don't fathom why the OpenSSL project chose the path they took. It smells heavily of "Not Invented Here" to me.Surely some future OpenSSL version will fix this mess?*) <a href="https://lists.haxx.se/pipermail/daniel/2025-January/000096.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://lists.haxx.se/pipermail/daniel/2025-January/000096.html</a>

Lorenzo MinieroJust a few weeks until <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fosdem" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fosdem</a>, where I'll give two talks:1. "imquic, a QUIC library for real-time media" at the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/RTC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#RTC</a> devroom, on my <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/quic" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#quic</a>, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/roq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#roq</a>, <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/moq" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#moq</a> library, and 2. "Become an orchestra composer using FOSS!" at the <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/OpenMedia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#OpenMedia</a> devroom, on my workflow to write/arrange/mix orchestral music.My submission on KIAVC (adv. game engine) to the lightning talks was ignored for the 3rd year in a row, instead, so I guess I'll take the hint and shelf it forever 😁See you there?<a href="https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/speaker/lorenzo_miniero/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/speaker/lorenzo_miniero/</a>

Lorenzo MinieroAaah I just thought of another great name for a <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/QUIC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QUIC</a> related project... Hayaquic! (早く, pronounced "hayaku", means "quickly" in Japanese 😁 ). I'll just have to think about something to create not to waste the name!

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