Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://masto.es/@ksild" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ksild</span></a></span></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Erdogan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Erdogan</span></a> noted that those who say "What does <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/T%C3%BCrkiye" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Türkiye</span></a> have to do in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Syria" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Syria</span></a>" are unaware of history: "If the conditions were different when the borders in our region were redrawn after <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WWI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWI</span></a> [when <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> LOST] the cities we call Aleppo, Idlib, Hama, Damascus, Raqqa would have been our provinces just like Antep, Hatay, Urfa. Since these cities are outside our borders, we did not have to completely cut off our relations with our people there."</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a></p><p><a href="https://en.apa.az/asia/erdogan-what-happened-in-syria-showed-reason-for-turkiyes-presence-in-country-455524" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.apa.az/asia/erdogan-what-ha</span><span class="invisible">ppened-in-syria-showed-reason-for-turkiyes-presence-in-country-455524</span></a><br>⬇️</p>
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Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@homohortus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>homohortus</span></a></span> </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/McMahonHusseinCorrespondence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>McMahonHusseinCorrespondence</span></a> refined the vague borders of the original <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kitchener" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kitchener</span></a> letter and carved OUT specific areas, including <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a>, from a future <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arabia</span></a>.</p><p>SUBJECT to above modifications, the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/British" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>British</span></a> accepted rest of the limits, frontiers, and borders advocated by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a>. </p><p>Nov 5, 1915: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> refused to budge on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> claims to land west of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Damascus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Damascus</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hama" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hama</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Homs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Homs</span></a> & Aleppo, including <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Alexandretta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Alexandretta</span></a>, giving rise to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ForwardPolicy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ForwardPolicy</span></a>.</p><p>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@homohortus" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>homohortus</span></a></span></p><p>BEFORE the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ArabRevolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArabRevolt</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WWI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWI</span></a>, secret <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> societies hiding from <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/YoungTurks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>YoungTurks</span></a> unilaterally drafted the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> and offered it to Grand Sherif <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> as a blueprint to negotiate Arab independence with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a>.</p><p>Britain never agreed to the Damascus Protocol and made an offer based on vague borders per <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kitchener" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kitchener</span></a>'s letter.</p><p>Hussein was in a hurry. Instead of looking at actual British offer, he got fixated on Damascus Protocol.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/McMahonHusseinCorrespondence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>McMahonHusseinCorrespondence</span></a> ensued.</p><p>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://vmst.io/@ajaykaul10" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ajaykaul10</span></a></span> </p><p>Nice explanation of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ThievesBanquet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ThievesBanquet</span></a> — WHY <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a> carved out <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a>.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> was crafted unilaterally by secret Arab societies but Britain never promised Palestine to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> in <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/McMahonHusseinCorrespondence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>McMahonHusseinCorrespondence</span></a>.</p><p>Britain rebuffed <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/zionism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>zionism</span></a> in 1914 & tried repeatedly to get <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Turkey" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Turkey</span></a> out of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WWI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWI</span></a> in exchange for Palestine, but Turkey refused.</p><p>Palestinians never fought for freedom.</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ekis" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ekis</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Properganda" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Properganda</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@tartley" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>tartley</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://dice.camp/@Lane" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Lane</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@chiclet" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>chiclet</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@GatekeepKen" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>GatekeepKen</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.acm.org/@nikatjef" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>nikatjef</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Grant_M" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Grant_M</span></a></span> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://sfba.social/@CivilityFan" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>CivilityFan</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@Darryl" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Darryl</span></a></span> </p><p>Root cause is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arabism</span></a></p><p>Been since <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WWI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWI</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> territorial ambition, NOT <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> welfare, drove <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> by secret Arab societies</p><p>Arabs promised to help <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/British" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>British</span></a> against <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OttomanEmpire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OttomanEmpire</span></a> in exchange for Arab independence, but Palestinians had NO agency in that, nor did they do anything to get anything from British in return. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a> never promised them that land.</p><p>Since root of the problem is <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/territorial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>territorial</span></a>, not <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/religious" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>religious</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secular" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secular</span></a> one-state is not solution</p><p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@ashmueli" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>ashmueli</span></a></span></p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OttomanEmpire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OttomanEmpire</span></a> - 2</p><p>Besides <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Jews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Jews</span></a>, there were 3 other broad categories of people in the region.</p><p>— <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Imperial" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Imperial</span></a> Masters, the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Turks" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Turks</span></a><br>— <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestinian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestinian</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Peasants" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Peasants</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fellahin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fellahin</span></a><br>— <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Bedouin" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Bedouin</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Nomads" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Nomads</span></a>, the "Pure <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arabs</span></a>"</p><p>The boundaries & borders of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a> & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabian" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arabian</span></a> lands were VAGUE TO ALL.</p><p>This is why <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kitchener" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kitchener</span></a>'s offer for Arab independence from <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/TurkishYoke" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TurkishYoke</span></a> in exchange for Arab uprising in WWI was based on vague borders.</p><p>Arabs dreamed up <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> on their own with no regard to Palestinians</p><p>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️</p><p>They reserved areas where <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a> had existing treaties with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> chiefs (Aden to Principalities on East Coast)</p><p>They reserved territories in which Britain was free to act without detriment to the interests of their ally, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/France" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>France</span></a>.</p><p>SUBJECT to above modifications, the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/British" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>British</span></a> accepted rest of the limits, frontiers, and borders advocated by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a>. </p><p>Nov 5, 1915: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> refused to budge on <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> claims to land west of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Damascus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Damascus</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hama" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hama</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Homs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Homs</span></a> & Aleppo, including <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Alexandretta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Alexandretta</span></a></p><p>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️<br><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> was LIVID.</p><p>He was under the impression that the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/British" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>British</span></a> had agreed to the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> document, prepared by <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> secret societies <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlFatat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlFatat</span></a> & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlAhd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlAhd</span></a>, declaring that Arabs would revolt in alliance with <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/UK" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>UK</span></a>. In return, UK would recognize Arab independence in the area specified by the Damascus Protocol, as they were ESSENTIAL to the well-being of any future <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> State</p><p>But British had offered VAGUE borders. Immediately after outbreak of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/WWI" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>WWI</span></a>, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/McMahon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>McMahon</span></a> took up the border issue</p><p>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️<br>Focusing himself more on the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a> than the actual British offer, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> accepted the British offer</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a> reaffirmed support for independent <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arabia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arabia</span></a> with vague borders & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Caliphate" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Caliphate</span></a> per <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Kitchener" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Kitchener</span></a>'s original letter in which it would, in exchange for support from the Arabs (prior to the outbreak of the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GreatWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GreatWar</span></a>) guarantee independence, rights & privileges against all foreign aggression, in particular, that of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ottomans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ottomans</span></a></p><p>That offer was NOT based on the Damascus Protocol<br>⬇️</p>
Ramesh #NotGoingBack<p>⬆️ Grand Sharif <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> secretly dispatched emissaries to main <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Arab" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Arab</span></a> leaders</p><p>1915: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hussein" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hussein</span></a> learns of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Turkish" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Turkish</span></a> plans to depose him, and to assert <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Ottoman" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Ottoman</span></a> control over <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Hejaz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Hejaz</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlAhd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlAhd</span></a> & <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AlFatat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AlFatat</span></a> join forces; conceive the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/DamascusProtocol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DamascusProtocol</span></a>, foundation of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/ArabRevolt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ArabRevolt</span></a></p><p>Implicit in the Damascus Protocol, Grand Sharif Hussein would preside over the "Great Arab State" containing <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Palestine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Palestine</span></a>. </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Britain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Britain</span></a> Makes Hussein an offer for an independent <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/sovereign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>sovereign</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Muslim" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Muslim</span></a> State & full control over holy sites!</p><p>⬇️</p>
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