said he didn't come for the healthy, but for the sick, for the broken people.

If was all about that, it should look more like a .


is the first ingredient necessary for growing up in the image of God.
Grace is , uninterrupted, , and accepting .

It is the kind of relationship humanity had with God in the Garden of Eden.

Adam and Eve were loved and provided for.
They knew God’s , and they had perfect to do God’s will.

In short, they were ; [...]

[...] they were ;
they had no and .
They could be who they truly were.

Perhaps you have experienced this kind of and with someone.
You can be exactly who you are.
You do not need to your or ;
you do not need to ;
you do not need to do anything to be loved.

Someone knows the you, and loves you anyway.

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is: "I DID something bad".
is: "I AM bad".

When you have DONE something wrong, you can easily change that. You can acknowledge your error, accept that it happened, and develop strategies that help you to not do the bad deed again.
However, with shame it's not possible to change at all - because the bad is YOURSELF.

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With alone, we are safe from , but we cannot experience true .
When the one who offers grace also offers (truth about who we are, truth about who he or she is, and truth about the world around us), and we respond with our true self, the real intimacy is possible.

Real intimacy always comes in the company of truth!

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Shame is possible to change by changing self-perception.


I agree - though that's not what meant.

It is not possible to change, when the whole world refuses to selfreflect their own misconceptions about you and refuse to work on changing their distorted perception of and idea about you.

(other than the one with oneself) can't be done by only one alone, it always needs an opposite being.

If love isn't earned then what exactly is the object of love? What is the lover loving?


I'm not sure if I can follow your question exactly.
Did you mean, what the love is focused towards?

I don't think love is not depending on anything to exist.
In my understanding love exists just by itself, already.

Just as water is there without needing someone to be thursty.
The same way how, I would get wet when I entered water to swim, is how I imagine this:
Adam and Eve lived within God's love, and they experienced love, because they were in unbroken connection with god.

Love is an emotion that a conscious being feels towards something else.

For love to be aroused the conscious being first needs to recognize this other entity and then decide, consciously or unconsciously, to love it.

So I find it hard to understand the stance that love simply exists.

The question is *why* would you love another person. My idea of love is recognition of another person's worth. His ethics, values etc.

Unconditional love is loving someone regardless of their value. Which basically devalues everything.

If you love the riotous and the wicked alike, doesn't that mean that you think that morally they are the same?

For me, love is not a feeling, but rather a principle. A principle that includes choice, action, and a fruit, or result.

So, love, as a choice and action, is for me, to constantly choose to evaluate which actions in our life lead to more life and not death, and then decide to act on them.

If you choose to give me food and shelter when I'm homeless; that's an act of love, right? - it in turn creates the emotional experience of "being loved".

cc @kpeace


My current answer to the question "**Why** would you love another person?" is, so that life can continue.
Loving (in the idea I explained previously) leads to life, while neglect leads to chaos and death.

So you are not talking about love, at least not in the sense that the rest of the world is talk about love. You are talking about a different principle. The principle of life.

Yiu can say that your love of life is what drives you to action, but in the end that is the cause. The ends of the principle you are talking about is life.

So the question is which life is the most important. Which life do you put above others, and why.

In the end you have finite recourses and finite time. So you can't support all life.


I thought (and still think) I'm talking about love - I believe the idea of love has been romanticize by culture.
But I think I can also see how my ideas differ greatly from most peoples point of view.

I realize, I might be not able currently to give an answer to *why* I would [start to] love someone. I can't help but to just see a intrinsic value in every human that is vulnerable.

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