Csepp 🌢<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://oldbytes.space/@Kroc" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>Kroc</span></a></span> Ooh, this lines up nicely with the self-hosting philosophy of <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a>. :neofox_owo:</p>
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Csepp 🌢<p>Held a <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/TI92" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TI92</span></a> in my hands and never until now have I known true <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/cyberdeck" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>cyberdeck</span></a> . It's like a laptop made for the apocalypse.<br>Needs a <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> port for real. :neofox_owo:</p>
1.44 MB<p><a class="mention h-card" href="https://tldr.nettime.org/users/tomjennings" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@tomjennings.tldr.nettime.org.ap.brid.gy</a>
I thought you might groove ( <a class="hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23z80" target="_blank">#z80</a> ). Have you ever seen something that you understand intuitively as beautiful, but know you can never fully understand? That is how I see Dupras and <a class="hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23Forth" target="_blank">#Forth</a>. Just enjoy the beauty. <a class="hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23CollapseOS" target="_blank">#CollapseOS</a>
<a href="https://kevinboone.me/collapseos.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">kevinboone.me/collapseos.h...</a><br><br><a href="https://kevinboone.me/collapseos.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kevin Boone: Is Collapse OS re...</a></p>
Ben Gleason<p>Here's an exploration of post-apocalyptic computer technology, particularly <a href="https://mastodon.online/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> </p><p>In short, it's not easy. </p><p><a href="https://kevinboone.me/collapseos.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">kevinboone.me/collapseos.html</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Csepp 🌢<p>Oh good, the assembler in <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/collapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseOS</span></a> straight up does not support the specific kind of modr/m mov I was trying to use. The upside of this is now I can say that I have debugged an assembler.<br>cc: <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/theFoundry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>theFoundry</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/assembly" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>assembly</span></a></p>
Santiago<p>La calidad del audio es muy mala, pero era peor y yo la mejore sustancialmente. Esta es la charla que di en FLISoL sobre CollapseOS <a href="https://tube.undernet.uy/w/6C6hUdxPkSXApUGYy8d89R" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">tube.undernet.uy/w/6C6hUdxPkSX</span><span class="invisible">ApUGYy8d89R</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/collapseos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseos</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/collapso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapso</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/post" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>post</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/apocalipsis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>apocalipsis</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/8bit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>8bit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/lowtech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>lowtech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisol25" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisol25</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisolmvd2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisolmvd2025</span></a></p>
Wulfy<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://kolektiva.social/@franklinlopez" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>franklinlopez</span></a></span> </p><p>What do we do when the <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Internet</span></a> gets switched off?</p><p>Local backups:<br>Wikipedia<br>OS Repos<br>Howto videos and books<br><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/DuskOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DuskOS</span></a> and <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a><br>Mesh networks on a suburb/small town basis.<br>Local AI models from <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/huggingface" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>huggingface</span></a></p><p>You're going to lose all your precious cloud shit.<br>Your smart phone will likely be bricked. Find your old flip phone.</p><p>I remember life before internet was everywhere, I still have my 26 volume encyclopedia in a plastic bag in the shed.</p><p>It's going to suck, but then societal collapse is never fun.</p>
Santiago<p>Mañana voy a dar una charla sobre Collapse OS en la FLISoL Montevideo 2025 en el Espacio Colabora a las 11:35hs</p><p>Resumen:<br>Nuestra vida cotidiana está absolutamente permeada y atravesada por la tecnología y se sostiene gracias a que se satisfacen muchas condiciones que hoy damos por sentado, como la energía, recursos minerales, cadenas de suministros, etc. ¿Que pasaría si alguno de estos factores que determinan el devenir de la civilización moderna, se interrumpiera o fallara? Algunos autores plantean que la civilización moderna simplemente colapsaría. Collapse OS es un proyecto de un sistema operativo para dispositivos de 8-bits programado en FORTH con la intención de poder reiniciar la tecnología post-colapso, devolviendo la posibilidad de programar micro-controladores y otros dispositivos imprescindibles para la vida moderna, como un panel foto-voltaico, o el riego automático de una huerta. En esta charla presentamos el proyecto, sus argumentos y sus resultados, mirando con el ojo latinoamericano y viendo que preguntas interesantes nos plantea y nos deja, en el marco de nuestra relación con la tecnología.<br><a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/collapseos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseos</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/duskos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>duskos</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/apocalipsis" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>apocalipsis</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/colapso" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>colapso</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/capitalismo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>capitalismo</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/decrecimiento" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>decrecimiento</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/solarpunk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>solarpunk</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/resiliencia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>resiliencia</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/obsolescenciaprogramada" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>obsolescenciaprogramada</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/inform%C3%A1tica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>informática</span></a></p>
Profoundly Nerdy<p>Is anyone here aware of any interesting projects involving the use of <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> or <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/DuskOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DuskOS</span></a>? Personally, I see a lot of potential <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/RightToRepair" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RightToRepair</span></a> use cases for embedded devices. <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/askfedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>askfedi</span></a></p>
Csepp 🌢<p>Don't wanna jinx it yet, so all I'm gonna say is that the <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/PocketViewer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>PocketViewer</span></a> ROM writer is finally picking up steam. :neofox_owo:<br><a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/theFoundry" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>theFoundry</span></a> <a href="https://merveilles.town/tags/theWorkshop" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>theWorkshop</span></a></p>
Ian Brown :verified:<p>TIL <a href="https://collapseos.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">collapseos.org</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.hccp.org/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a></p>
noah<p><a href="https://www.wired.com/story/forth-collapse-os-apocalypse-programming-language/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">wired.com/story/forth-collapse</span><span class="invisible">-os-apocalypse-programming-language/</span></a></p><p>an absolutely amazing article</p><p><a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/forth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forth</span></a> <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/programming" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>programming</span></a> <a href="https://tilde.zone/tags/collapseos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseos</span></a></p>
Marce Coll<p>Next <a href="https://functional.cafe/tags/forth" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>forth</span></a> project: Super barebones (but useful) <a href="https://functional.cafe/tags/willow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>willow</span></a> protocol implementation.</p><p>Following with the post-apocalyptic aesthetic and everything around things like <a href="https://functional.cafe/tags/permacomputing" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>permacomputing</span></a> and <a href="https://functional.cafe/tags/collapseos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseos</span></a> I see an opportunity for a decentralized easy to use way to share data between isolated communities through something like the <a href="https://functional.cafe/tags/willow" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>willow</span></a> protocol.</p><p>I don't know why I'm so attracted to this aesthetic but it's a bit of a current obsession.</p>
FLISoL Uruguay<p>Explora el proyecto Collapse OS, un sistema operativo diseñado para reiniciar la tecnología después de un colapso civilizatorio. Reflexiona sobre las implicaciones y preguntas que plantea este proyecto en el contexto latinoamericano y su relación con la tecnología. Este Sábado 27 a las 17:30hs, Santiago Roland de Undernet Uruguay, nos hablará de estes temas en su charla "Collapse OS: Un sistema operativo post-apocalíptico". Ver programa completo en --> <a href="https://wiki.flisol.uy/_media/montevideo/librillo_resumenes_flisol2024-v1.5.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">wiki.flisol.uy/_media/montevid</span><span class="invisible">eo/librillo_resumenes_flisol2024-v1.5.pdf</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/Tecnolog%C3%ADa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Tecnología</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/ColapsoCivilizatorio" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ColapsoCivilizatorio</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/Latinoam%C3%A9rica" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Latinoamérica</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisol</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisolmvd" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisolmvd</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisol2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisol2024</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisolmvd2024" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisolmvd2024</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.uy/tags/flisoluy" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>flisoluy</span></a></p>
eiZen<p><span class="h-card"><a href="https://tilde.zone/@mhd" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>mhd</span></a></span> <br>Maybe one could combine <a href="https://mastodon.sdf.org/tags/CollapseOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CollapseOS</span></a> into some of those small 6502 or z80 boards and give them a new case. However, I didn't find Collapse OS particularly easy to grasp although I liked the bootstrap vision. </p><p>Why *not* some BASIC?</p>
requiem 🦫<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://retro.social/@freakazoid" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>freakazoid</span></a></span> I don’t know much about your application but consider forth as well, perhaps specifically <a href="https://hackers.town/tags/collapseos" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapseos</span></a> <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://hackers.town/@vertigo" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>vertigo</span></a></span></p>
Cela fait quelques temps que je n'ai pas publié sur Masto. Ça bosse dur mais sortir des résultats prend son temps... En attendant, j'interviens jeudi prochain 
dans le Séminaire d'hiver du collectif #EPSI 
pour parler #ingénierie et enjeux de l'expertise technique dans le mouvement #lowtech, en compagnie de Marie-Pierre Escudié, qui parlera d'informatique #frugal avec le cas de #CollapseOS.
Toutes les infos ici 
https://epsi.hypotheses.org/3863
I love #collapseos but this might be an even more durable post-collapse option...
https://hackaday.io/project/193805-3d-print-babbages-difference-engine-no2
hackaday.io3D Print Babbage's Difference Engine No.2Imagine a world where computation began with gears and steam-powered machinery. Enter Charles Babbage, a visionary mathematician and inventor who conceptualized the world's first mechanical computer, the Difference Engine No. 2, back in the 19th century. This groundbreaking device was designed to perform complex mathematical calculations, heralding the dawn of computing technology. Its intricate series of interlocking gears, cranks, and cylinders laid the foundation for modern computers. In the spirit of celebrating Babbage's genius and the steampunk ethos, I've embarked on an ambitious project: the replication of Babbage's Difference Engine No. 2 using modern technology, namely 3D printing. Through the marriage of 19th-century innovation and 21st-century manufacturing techniques, this project stands as a testament to the enduring influence of Babbage's legacy and the captivating allure of steampunk culture.
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The problem with the emulation approach is that it makes dropping down into native code harder. In #CollapseOS and #DuskOS you can write a word in native code and have a fallback definition in portable Forth that only activates if there is no native version.
With an emulated ISA (this also includes #uxn) you either use macro-ops (becomes complicated for large functions, how do you catch memset?) or you extend the ISA (see devices in uxn). 
This is kind of a cursed idea, but could something like #CollapseOS or #DuskOS run entirely from the CPU cache with no DRAM if one hacked it directly into the #BIOS? 
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