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Jeff MacKinnon<p>Does anyone know of a Opensource project that is likely to be a replacement for AutoCAD for the building/MEP industries? The only two that I know of are FreeCAD and LibreCAD. FreeCAD is parametric, and LibreCAD is still way too "new".</p><p>The only features they tout are: Free, GPLv2 OpenSource, "No Language Barriers"</p><p><a href="https://librecad.org/#features" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="">librecad.org/#features</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>And there is no roadmap.</p><p><a href="https://bluenoser.me/tags/autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocad</span></a> <a href="https://bluenoser.me/tags/linux" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>linux</span></a> <a href="https://bluenoser.me/tags/CAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CAD</span></a> <a href="https://bluenoser.me/tags/MEP" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MEP</span></a> <a href="https://bluenoser.me/tags/drawings" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>drawings</span></a></p>
Wouter Lindenhof<p>Fuck it, I'm reinstalling a VM and see if that works. Should be quicker than trying to debug <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AutoCad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCad</span></a></p>
Wouter Lindenhof<p>Seriously, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AutoCad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCad</span></a>, please install without rolling back. Copying files shouldn't be that hard. 😫</p>
Silicium<p>Une machine méconnue de la collection <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/silicium" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>silicium</span></a> <br>Station Intergraph de la série 2700 de 1993 à CPU <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/RISC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RISC</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Intergraph" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Intergraph</span></a> Clipper C4 (C400) à 40 MHz<br>Intergraph était spécialisée dans les logiciels de CAO-DAO.<br>Elle proposait des machines avec <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Microstation" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microstation</span></a>, concurrent d'<a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autocad</span></a>.</p>
OS-SCI<p>When it comes to technical drawings proprietary <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocad</span></a> is dominating. Bit did you know there's an open source tool called <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Freecad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Freecad</span></a> . Full <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/foss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>foss</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/floss" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>floss</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> .&nbsp;<br><a href="https://www.freecad.org/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">freecad.org/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p>
Dustin [BusySignal-KE2EFX]<p>Broke the FTM-500 remote head mount.<br>Parts ordered...but...gonna be a bit.<br>How about I torture myself in CAD.<br><a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Yaesu" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Yaesu</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Fusion360" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fusion360</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/3DPrint" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>3DPrint</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Prusa" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Prusa</span></a> <a href="https://infosec.exchange/tags/Printables" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Printables</span></a> (coming soon)</p>
Japan Pop News<p><a href="https://www.wacoca.com/news/2440936/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">wacoca.com/news/2440936/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> Windows 11 24H2で「AutoCAD 2022」が起動しない問題 ～セーフガードが適用中 <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Science</span></a>&amp;Technology <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/ScienceNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ScienceNews</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/TechnologyNews" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TechnologyNews</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>システム</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0%E3%83%BB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>システム・ファイル</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E3%83%86%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8E%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>テクノロジー</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B324H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>バージョン24H2</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>画像</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F%E3%83%BB%E6%98%A0%E5%83%8F%E3%83%BB%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>画像・映像・音楽</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E7%A7%91%E5%AD%A6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>科学</span></a> <a href="https://wakoka.com/tags/%E7%A7%91%E5%AD%A6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>科学</span></a>＆テクノロジー</p>
Walk News<p><a href="https://www.walknews.com/800159/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">walknews.com/800159/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a> Windows 11 24H2で「AutoCAD 2022」が起動しない問題 ～セーフガードが適用中 <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Science</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/Science" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Science</span></a>&amp;Technology <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/Technology" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Technology</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>システム</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E3%82%B7%E3%82%B9%E3%83%86%E3%83%A0%E3%83%BB%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AB" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>システム・ファイル</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E3%83%86%E3%82%AF%E3%83%8E%E3%83%AD%E3%82%B8%E3%83%BC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>テクノロジー</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B324H2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>バージョン24H2</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>画像</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E7%94%BB%E5%83%8F%E3%83%BB%E6%98%A0%E5%83%8F%E3%83%BB%E9%9F%B3%E6%A5%BD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>画像・映像・音楽</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E7%A7%91%E5%AD%A6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>科学</span></a> <a href="https://jforo.com/tags/%E7%A7%91%E5%AD%A6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>科学</span></a>＆テクノロジー</p>
WinFuture.de<p>Neuer Update-Blocker für Windows 11: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> 2022-Nutzer müssen auf das 24H2-Update verzichten. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Microsoft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Microsoft</span></a> reagiert auf Startprobleme der Software nach der Aktualisierung. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Windows11" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows11</span></a> <a href="https://winfuture.de/news,149155.html?utm_source=Mastodon&amp;utm_medium=ManualStatus&amp;utm_campaign=SocialMedia" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">winfuture.de/news,149155.html?</span><span class="invisible">utm_source=Mastodon&amp;utm_medium=ManualStatus&amp;utm_campaign=SocialMedia</span></a></p>
Keira (She/Her)<p>Does anyone on here work for <a href="https://aus.social/tags/Autodesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autodesk</span></a>, working on <a href="https://aus.social/tags/autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocad</span></a>?</p><p>My partner and I have a friend who is 94 and probably your longest term user, and we wanted to see if we could talk to someone about getting him a lifetime subscription, now that he's retired (more recently than you'd think) and doesn't have work access.</p>
Scott Prentice ✅<p>Just gotta say that running Windows OSes on a Mac in VMs .. rocks!</p><p>I have clients on Windows and Mac. Been using VMware Fusion for years to run multiple OSes at once and switch between them as needed.</p><p>The best part, though, is being able to run old software! I have a copy of <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> 2004 (from when I worked at <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Autodesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autodesk</span></a> 20+ years ago), that runs great in my Win7 VM. I'm also able to run <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FrameMaker" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FrameMaker</span></a> 12 (2014) .. pre-subscription.</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OldSoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OldSoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OldTech" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OldTech</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Software" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Software</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/VirtualMachine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>VirtualMachine</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Windows" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Windows</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MacOS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MacOS</span></a></p>
One Community<p>The Compressed Earth Block Village plans will provide free-shared, county-approved building designs, including Revit, AutoCAD, and SketchUp files. Starting with the 3-dome cluster crowdfunding campaign, this process will expand to open source the Earthbag Village, Duplicable City Center®, and all 7 villages.</p><p><a href="https://www.onecommunityglobal.org/compressed-earth-block-village-building-plans/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">onecommunityglobal.org/compres</span><span class="invisible">sed-earth-block-village-building-plans/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CompressedEarthBlock" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CompressedEarthBlock</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SustainableDesign" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SustainableDesign</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OpenSourceBlueprints" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OpenSourceBlueprints</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EcoVillage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EcoVillage</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/EarthArchitecture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>EarthArchitecture</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SustainableLiving" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SustainableLiving</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/BuildingPlans" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>BuildingPlans</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Revit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Revit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/SketchUp" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>SketchUp</span></a></p>
餓鬼<p>永久ライセンスとは何なのか? <a href="https://mstdn.nere9.help/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.nere9.help/tags/Autodesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autodesk</span></a></p><p>"サポートの終了したバージョンについては、どのデバイスにおいても、再アクティベーションするためのアクティベーション コードを取得することはできません"<br>Autodesk Account の基本 | 前バージョンの製品 | サポート ライフサイクル <a href="https://www.autodesk.com/jp/support/account/manage/versions/support-lifecycle" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">autodesk.com/jp/support/accoun</span><span class="invisible">t/manage/versions/support-lifecycle</span></a></p>
餓鬼<p>ゲロ机、許せねえ! <a href="https://mstdn.nere9.help/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> <a href="https://mstdn.nere9.help/tags/Autodesk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Autodesk</span></a></p><p>"おい(認証サーバを殺して元々買い切りだったはずが2002以降の正規パッケージ版を皆殺しにしたAutoCAD( LT)の話は)やめろ<br>※一方お高いえげつないといわれていたAdobeはサポートしないが使用にブロックをかけないという神対応で<br>※Officeも、セキュリティ問題を抱えつつインストールや使用はできるのが"<br><a href="https://twitter.com/hokunan/status/1861127959505261011" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">twitter.com/hokunan/status/186</span><span class="invisible">1127959505261011</span></a>?</p>
Fabián Rodríguez 🛡💾 🇨🇴 🌴<p>FreeCAD Version 1.0 Released - <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FreeCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FreeCAD</span></a> is an open-source parametric 3D <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CAD</span></a> (Computer-Aided Design) modeling tool. It's primarily used for designing and engineering products in various fields such as mechanical engineering, product design, and architecture. </p><p>This release marks FreeCAD's readiness for extensive real-world applications, reflecting the dedicated efforts of its community.</p><p><a href="https://blog.freecad.org/2024/11/19/freecad-version-1-0-released/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">blog.freecad.org/2024/11/19/fr</span><span class="invisible">eecad-version-1-0-released/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/freesoftware" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>freesoftware</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocad</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/opensource" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opensource</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/GPLv2" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>GPLv2</span></a></p>
Darth ŠČ! (Goodbye PeerTube)<p><strong>Why FreeCAD 1.0.0 Feels Like a Win for Everyone, Especially for Linux Users</strong></p> <p><a href="https://tux-edu.tv/videos/watch/a600808f-84a0-4b59-9591-def7ead6266b" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">tux-edu.tv/videos/watch/a60080</span><span class="invisible">8f-84a0-4b59-9591-def7ead6266b</span></a></p>
Korawich Kavee<p>a daily reminder to any 2d drawing <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/autocad" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>autocad</span></a> user out there, please save as <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/DXF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DXF</span></a> and avoid <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/dwg" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>dwg</span></a> for real universal compatibility. <br><a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/architecture" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>architecture</span></a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/engineering" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>engineering</span></a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/construction" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>construction</span></a></p>
Ian Scott :apple_inc: 🐙<p>This version of <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a> amazingly has 3D. This office drawing took about 5 minutes to load and draw. I bet running the “remove hidden lines” command would take about an hour.</p>
Ian Scott :apple_inc: 🐙<p>Time to play with <a href="https://bitbang.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a>, which amazingly was ported to this machine. It takes a couple minutes to load any drawing of reasonable complexity. Redrawing is relatively quick though!</p>
𝗝𝗼𝗵𝗮𝗻<p><a href="https://aipub.social/tags/%D0%A3%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9%D0%9A%D0%BE%D1%82" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>УтреннийКот</span></a> пытается в <a href="https://aipub.social/tags/AutoCAD" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AutoCAD</span></a></p><p><a href="https://aipub.social/tags/NeuralNetwork" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NeuralNetwork</span></a> <a href="https://aipub.social/tags/AIArt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>AIArt</span></a> <a href="https://aipub.social/tags/DALLE3" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>DALLE3</span></a> <a href="https://aipub.social/tags/MorningCat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MorningCat</span></a></p>
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