@brainblasted I do totally get your constraints with needing to focus and also have completely different tasks between programming, design, and art (mainly photography these days).

So I hope this little bit of info helps.

Also, when I'm down to 1 monitor, making sure to sort separate tasks into different workspaces is critical, even if it's just hiding a music player in another workspace. (It still helps for 3 monitors too.)

@brainblasted I have 2 external monitors on my laptops (work and personal).

I benefit from the extra space for the same reasons, but also need to make things as simple as possible for focusing too.

For work, I have main (code/inkscape), secondary (output/reference), tertiary (communications, on laptop, to the side).

When I need to focus, I'll turn off the secondary and GNOME remembers which outputs are what and will turn off the laptop display too, so I jump from 3 to 1 with one button push.

@aperezdc @wjt Yeah, I hate using ISO keyboards, as I grew up on ANSI.

However, now I have my main keyboard with enter under my right thumb (where I decided to put it), soooooo...

I guess the preference of ISO vs. ANSI is just what we grew up with, and they're similar but just different enough to be annoying?

@aperezdc @wjt After decades of using a Logitech thumb trackball, I was shocked at how natural it was to use a Kensington big ball (Slim Blade specifically). There was absolutely no learning curve at all for me.

(I expected it to feel weird for a few days. But it never ever felt weird. And the twist to scroll is ace.)

@danrabbit Same. πŸ’―

These fun and/or easier to work in things are so necessary too, for one's mental health.

Sometimes you'll even come back a fresh look at the hard problems too, getting those solved more easily.

@directhex Hopefully it's an oversight and MS will add remote play to the new Xboxes?

@directhex Wow, that's at least something that PS5 does that's better than the Xbox!

(There's also PSVR and exclusives, but that's about it. If I didn't already have a PS3+4 & PSVR and loved the exclusives, I'd probably go to the XBox.

But, as for now, I'll get the PS5 in ... years ... when it's finally available. Or might eventually give up and get an Xbox while waiting? Complete back catalogue and pausing games are both quite nice.)

@wjt @aperezdc I'm not sure how much it's like your Filco, but there's the UHK (Ultimate Hacking Keyboard): ultimatehackingkeyboard.com/

It's a split staggered keyboard and it's programmable.

And here's a review: unhexium.net/hardware/the-ulti

I also loved the MS Sculpt Ergo, which has minimal transition time, but: membrane (not too bad though), tiny F# keys, tiny escape, breaks down in a year, issues after 3 years, dongle is not replaceable, not programmable, not open source.

@wjt @aperezdc Ah, if I were to use another completely different layout, I'd assign it or Qwerty to another layer to toggle.

I've seen a lot of people using Dvorak (and Colemak and Workman and so on) with their Moonlander and Ergodox layouts and have a Qwerty layer for games and other things.

You can physically swap any key with any other key too. I shuffled around arrows, for example. (But it doesn't matter much for touch typing.)

@wjt @aperezdc I love the MX ergo, but my thumb started hurting too much a couple months ago and I got a Kensington Slim Blade. It's a huge ball in comparison, but I instantly felt at home.

I still swap out for the MX Ergo sometimes and also a Logtech MX Vertical mouse. And I'm really enjoying the Apple Trackpad 2 with GNOME 40 on Fedora 34 beta.

I have way too many input devices, but love and use them all from time to time. πŸ˜…

@brainwane @wjt @mhoye It's also possible to build your own Ergodox ergodox.io/
or Redox hackaday.com/2018/09/27/the-re too... or even something even more wild like the Dactyl/Manuform github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyb

There are people and even businesses that will build these too, if you don't want to go totally overboard.

(However, I love how easy ZSA's configuration website is, and they do a good job overall. I'm happy with my Moonlander.)

@brainwane @wjt @mhoye Ah, cool.

Excellent points on that blog post.

The Moonlander (& Ergodox EZ before it) addresses most of those minor complaints.

The 6TGB / 7YHN duplication can even be set up, if desired... at least for the top 3 keys on each half. (Sorry, B/N keys.) Unless one moves all the keys one step outward (all keys are interchangeable and reprogrammable), then B/N too!

Multifunction keys & layers are possible to make up the diff.

@wjt I'm happy to talk about any of them that you want to know about, to spare you from buying all of them too. πŸ˜‚

As I sit in front of a computer all day and have painful hands, I kind of have to do what I can. Switching between devices helps a lot.

I even switch between hands too.

Now I can even put a trackball or touchpad in the middle, with a split keyboard.

Going w/o the tenkey keypad was already a big win previously, getting the mouse/trackball closer.

@wjt I have a ton of ergonomic devices. The keyboard is one of the latest ones.

(Previously, I had a Microsoft Sculpt keyboard. While it's great, it had a few tiny issues and a big one: the wireless dongle. No way to repair or replace it.)

For cursor moving input devices, I have (among others): a Kensington Blade trackball, Logitech MX Ergo, Apple Touchpad 2, Microsoft Sculpt Mouse, Wacom tablet.

It's a lot, but I switch between them to what's most comfortable at the moment.


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@kepstin Yeah, it was an odd dream for all sorts of reasons.

From what I've read there are Speed Silvers (for example) from both Cherry and Kailh that only need an extremely light touch. Not sure if I'd like that.

It's really meant for gaming, but I guess some people type on the lighter switches and enjoy softer, shallower keypresses? 🀷

@wjt The huge thing for me is that it majorly helped to reduce my finger, hand, wrist, and shoulder pain.

(I still have some pain, but it's nothing like before.)

So, just from that viewpoint, it was more than worth it.

Here's my current custom layout:

I still have some ideas and will always optimize it further, but this works very well for me.

(Also: I switch to my laptop's normal keyboard every once in a while, so my fingers won't forget. πŸ˜‰)

@wjt I love my Moonlander keyboard.

It does take getting used to. Even a few months in, I'm not perfect. But I was pretty decently back up to a reasonable speed within three days of usage. And typing quickly after a week.

Now? I'm fast again, but programming is still slower due to the curly braces.

You can (& should) program it how you like.

Thankfully, they provide tools for Linux and it's all open source, including the firmware. Their graphical configurator is nice too.

@RyuKurisu Ortholinear is linear in both directions. The Moonlander has a slight vertical stagger from one column to the next.

I've included a tight crop of a photo to show how it's not really a pure ortholinear grid and another of a Planck keyboard to show how the keys line up vertically and horizontally.

It's definitely different from a normal staggered keyboard though! 😁

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