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So please make self hosting easier. The installation instructions shouldn't assume you're a sysadmin or know anything about obscure packages. That should be in the expert section.

book boi ๐Ÿ“š @eliasg

@eladhen @nextcloud yes we need solutions for the average computer user who has a life outside of this screen.

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@eliasg @eladhen @nextcloud I stopped using systems like Nextcloud because of the administrative and server overheads when I just wanted an iCal and Contacts host.

Leaner tools would likely be very welcome.

@eliasg @eladhen @nextcloud

You can use NextCloud without self-hosting.

There are many sites that let you sign up for a NextCloud account just like you would sign up for Google Drive or DropBox:

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The fact is, setting up self hosting can be streamlined. If you install Mail in a Box self hosted server it sets up a Nextcloud server for you via a script. We can point out the fact that it is possible and that it needs to be simpler to self host.
@eliasg @nextcloud