covid, ethics
A quick look at data on Switzerland indicates that the vast majority of covid deaths (~90%) are accounted for by people over the age of 80 who are not vaccinated
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-fully-vaccinated-by-age?country=~CHE
Does this not imply that the great majority of deaths comes from voluntary non-vaccination in the group of people are aware of what death means?
I fail to make a convincing argument for current corona measures given this information.
covid, ethics
@douginamug do you think it's a form, albeit quite different, to assisted suicide?
I remember my Grandad having an "if it's my time, it's my time" attitude when lots of people near him were catching it. I think that was slightly before the roll-outs of vaccine
covid, ethics
@athairbirb I know what you mean... it's a bit different though. That attitude doesn't necessarily mean people want to die, but are willing to accept the risk. More like not wearing a seatbelt or something.
But yes, I do see there being a specific, voluntary element which seems to get ignored in the discourse. If these people want to take the disproportionate risk, why don't we let them?
covid, ethics
@douginamug I think, previously certainly, the risk was not to them alone. It extended to those in their environs and visiting.
I know healthcare has a keep-alive-at-all-costs mentality to healthcare in UK (probably west-wide tbh) and it's something I didn't see in veterinary care, which was refreshing and more humane.