There is a game theory scenario I keep coming back to, because I feel it is so often experienced when nice people are trying to coordinate around slight preferences.
Unfortunately, it was initially coined as 'Battle of the Sexes', imagining a hetero couple where the guy wants to watch boxing and the girl ballet 😴
Since the early 90's, people have instead been calling it 'Bach or Stravinsky'.
Should I move the wikipedia page? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_sexes_(game_theory) Anyone got advice on doing that?
I started reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#Before_moving_a_page but would be interested to hear personal opinions :)
@douginamug @pintoch @jums the topic seems to have been at least partly discussed already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Battle_of_the_sexes_(game_theory)#BoS_=_Bach_or_Stravinsky? and no resistance was expressed then, on the contrary; so I guess that could be a simple move request(?)
@maxlath alright, on my list after publishing that page 😅
@douginamug The question is, what is it most popularly known as? In the absence of some evidence that the game would be more clearly identifiable as "Bach or Stravinsky", I would leave it as is.
FWIW, the original title is stereotypical, yes, but it's not a negative stereotype (nothing wrong with ballet or boxing!) and like many stereotypes it contains a certain amount of truth.
@mpjgregoire yeah, that's hard to tell! I turn to ngrams... 'battle of the sexes' used much outside of game theory, swamps signal.
'bach or stravinsky' vs 'prisonner's dilemma' more interesting https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=bach+or+stravinsky%2Cprisonner%27s+dilemma&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&case_insensitive=on&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2CBach%20or%20Stravinsky%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2Cprisonner%20%27s%20dilemma%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bprisonner%20%27s%20dilemma%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPrisonner%20%27s%20Dilemma%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2CBach%20or%20Stravinsky%3B%2Cc0%3B.t4%3B%2Cprisonner%20's%20dilemma%3B%2Cc0%3B%2Cs0%3B%3Bprisonner%20's%20dilemma%3B%2Cc0%3B%3BPrisonner%20's%20Dilemma%3B%2Cc0
Sure, it might have some truth... but now we're having a discussion about gender stereotypes instead of game theory 🤷 I estimate the name will change, unless game theory loses all relevance (which I hope it doesn't)
@douginamug I don't think I've ever read the term "Bach or Stravinsky" until your post, but I doubt that proves anything. If indeed the name will change, then wait a decade and perhaps by then it will be obvious that the WP article ought to be renamed.
@douginamug not that it has much more info, but the governing Wikipedia policy on this is https://enwp.org/WP:COMMONNAME. I'd recommend starting a discussion about it (if you think anyone might not fully support the move); instructions for that are at https://enwp.org/WP:RMCM (the main page for the process is https://enwp.org/WP:RM). feel free to ask if you have any questions
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