@pkal@emacs.ch that discussion about clojure-mode on Emacs mail list, was truly surprising.
The suggestion, to include clojure-mode by default, made no sense.
What was shocking is that Emacs core devs were shocked that nobody (who writes Clojure) wanted the mode bundled in Emacs by default.
It seems to me that there is a whole world of Emacs out there, that Emacs core is unaware of.
With Emacs “distros”*, people aren’t only unaware but they don’t care about Emacs defaults.
*doom, spacemacs…
@dotemacs @pkal honestly it no longer surprises me when the core devs show how out of touch with reality they are
my feelings on package.el are complicated; it's brought a lot of good and a lot of bad, but the fact that most elisp dev can bypass the dysfunctional core team is by far the biggest positive
@dotemacs @pkal when package.el was first submitted to emacs, rms initially wanted to edit it (remove features) so that it could not be configured to load from a package archive other than the official GNU one which required copyright assignment
I replied that my offer to help would be retracted if he did that
and honestly? I'm surprised that worked (but very glad)