Hello Fediworld 👋

most of the #switchingsocial website is restored - have a look:

switching.software
(or swiso.org for short)

I want to thank @gemlog for preparing the web-archive version and @LuKaRo for extracting the missing pages from the Google Cache. Would have taken so much longer without you two 🙂

@switchingsoftware

Is it even possible, to connect all those text posts over into the ?

I find myself regularly visiting the website for a link to the instagram alternative, but would like to just boost/share the related article.

@gemlog @LuKaRo

@d599f84e @switchingsoftware @LuKaRo

I think I don't understand. The instagram one is switching.software/ethical-alt

If by 'article' you meant the thread you are in?

mstdn.swiso.org/@switchingsoft

I'm sorry, I'm really lost as to what you need :-(

Also, I'm not an admin of the new website at switching.software/ but I'd like to help you out.

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@gemlog

Oh sorry, I didn't think of how you could interpret my words.

What I was asking for was, if we can find a way to make every post on switching.social reachable via activitypub.

@switchingsoftware @LuKaRo

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@gemlog

As an example; if I search in Mastodon for a post by @earth I can like, share, and comment on it.
The same goes with a video on and as well with a textpost by an .

isn't accessible through the fediverse. There's no way to *access* or *interact* in any way with a "post" from switching.software

Does that make sense?

@switchingsoftware @LuKaRo

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@d599f84e @switchingsoftware @LuKaRo
AFAIK, switching.software is just a normal Grav-based website, which is not in the fediverse via any connective protocol. So, 'no'.
If I have this, you want a website with a blog that is connected to the fediverse, so each article is a separate 'post'/'toot'? And can have threads, so ppl can post to it.
Sorry, I'm feeling really dumb at this point.

@gemlog

Yes, that's what I meant :)

So, that when I share a URL (let's say swiso.org/instagram) with my friends that they can see how people talk about it, rather than just seeing a cold plain text article.

@switchingsoftware @LuKaRo

@d599f84e @switchingsoftware @LuKaRo
A website where the 'comments' section for each article is actually a thread on e.g. masto?
That'd be a heckofa lot better that the Diskus monstrosity I always block.

@gemlog

Yes, I think write.as actually implemented something like this!

@switchingsoftware @LuKaRo

@d599f84e @switchingsoftware @LuKaRo
(nice flag, thanks :-)
Um write.as. I did glance at it a bit ago, but I never installed it, because I wasn't sure what I would do with YAblogging platform, but now you point this out, it's a Very Good Thing.
Thank you for educating me on this, I will take another look.

Now, again though, I'm not a dev of switching.software. Just a guy who thought I might have to be 'that guy/dev' and crawled the site to rescue the info and structure.

Perhaps he'll pop in.

@d599f84e @switchingsoftware @LuKaRo
write.as is not completely free (as in freedom) s/w. Or in the fedi.
Better would be to make a fedi version of Disqus that anyone with any old website could use no?

@gemlog @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @d599f84e Disqus-but-Fedi would be great. People have been saying it would be great for years. 😁

@clacke @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @d599f84e
Really? Since I have always blocked disqus and have only been using fedi since 2.5 yrs, I had no idea. Witness poor Friend there trying to get me to even understand! ;-)

@gemlog @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @d599f84e I think there isn't a whole lot that would need to be done:

- An Atom-to-AP crossposter
- A widget that displays comments to the crosspost of the currently shown article
- Optionally, a way to comment directly on the page and have comments federate

I think the first two already exist in some forms. But AFAIK it's just that nobody has put them together yet.

As a Wordpress-specific solution there is wordpress.org/plugins/pterotyp… by @jdormit which seems pretty cool. It covers all three bases and allows Wordpress comments to federate.

@clacke @jdormit @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @d599f84e
That is extremely cool!
I just went from never having heard of a Thing to seeing it implemented already! Nice :-)

@jdormit @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @gemlog @d599f84e

There is presumably @remark_as being worked on, but it has been long in stealth mode, no telling when it might be out and how free it might be.

I had forgotten about it even though I even brought it up in a convo a year ago. 😀

libranet.de/display/0b6b25a8-2…

There is a year-and-a-half old convo over at discuss.write.as/t/remark-as-p… that is still occasionally somewhat alive, about the potential of remark.as and some research into the field. Some solutions to various parts of the #disqus problem are mentioned there.
TL;DR, things mentioned over on write.as Discourse:

- commento.io/
* go, so presumably esy to deploy
* self-hostable
* them-hostable
* spam tools
- www.talkyard.io/blog-comments
* looks like a huge thing, blog comments is but one aspect
* self-hostable
* them-hostable
* spam tools

Both look pretty, both support acting as comment field to statically generated blogs, neither federates.

@clacke
I set up a Go toolchain for myself the other day. I didn't really enjoy it, but I built w/e it was afterward ok.
But anyhow "neither federates" was kind of against the whole point I thought.
So, the way forward at the moment to do what buddy was asking for is to use wordpress only.
Obviously, I'm not SwiSo, but I wouldn't be very excited about doing that. Very large php things are a pita for security and maint. (moodle/joomla exp lots).

@gemlog @jdormit @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @d599f84e That's supposed to have a purple friendly feathered winged dinosaur on it, not a db error. 🙁

Perils of dogfooding Wordpress, I suppose.

@clacke This sounds promising. I tried something similar once, but had no idea on the second point: How to find the right thread to embed into the site's comment section.

As the post is generated when the page gets published, there is no way to now the post URL before the page gets published. 🤔 So I think one would need to add the embed in a second step and republish?

cc @jdormit @LuKaRo @gemlog @d599f84e

@clacke PS: Right now, it seems like we will be working with Hugo, so the solution should work with static sites. 🤔

The version that is currently online, is only a bunch of restored HTML pages without any generator or CMS behind it. That's what we are fixing currently 😅

@switchingsoftware @jdormit @LuKaRo @gemlog @d599f84e

Publishing, linking from fedi, then re-publishing with fedi link is what bkuhn did back when he had fedi comments(0) (not embedded on the blog, just a link), but that was manual and with standard fedi software.

Since we are talking about fantasy software here, let's just decide that the widget and the associated service can figure out the comments to your post.

I don't know how disqus and others do it, but I assume they just tell the service "please show comments for URL myblog.example.com/post/hello-… decided at build time, or they say "please show comments for the current page" and some JS figures it out from window.location.href.

(0) ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2017/04/25/…

@clacke

Oh yes, right. I just realised, that is what tons of bot accounts in the fediverse already do!

@jdormit @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware @gemlog

@d599f84e @clacke @jdormit @LuKaRo @switchingsoftware
Good point! Within two days of joining masto I had a bot set up with some cloned code I hacked on (long since killed).

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