Petition to remove the ability for JavaScript to manipulate scrolling from all web browsers


Petetion to remove JavaScript from all web browsers

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@sir sadly that would do more bad than good :/

@alvarezp @sir Because a lot of useful things would break. While some might abuse JS, many don't. And it's unfair to ignore the good parts.

@biosmarcel @sir Same argument was given by some people back when Win98 did not have restricted accounts, same argument for macros in Office documents... yet, bad ideas The more we set roots into this, the more painful will it be to fix it.

@alvarezp @biosmarcel @sir Certainly, backwards compatibility can't an excuse not to reverse terrible decisions.

The good parts of JavaScript can be replaced in ways that don't have us running whatever untrusted software The Internet gives us. And can ensure the alternatives gracefully degrade enough that pages still work on unsupporting browsers.

I really like Intercooler.js's ideas for starters.

@alvarezp @biosmarcel @sir Another reason to dislike JavaScript:

It may arguably improve your site's experience on a desktop/laptop or even touchscreen phone, but it worsens your experience on, say, a "smart" TV or voice assistant even more so. This promise of universal accessibility was a big selling point for the Web early-on.

I really don't know how I'd conveniently incorporate JavaScript into a voice assistant experience. The APIs don't gell well.

@biosmarcel @sir @alvarezp
>many dont

many dont
you hear that guys, the majority of websites out there dont use js for loading-bar overlays or animated dropdown menus or GDPR banners, they use it responsibly!
@biosmarcel @alvarezp @sir well if you give a webdev an inch they'll take a mile, which is exactly how we ended up in this hellhole in the first place

get over yourself, by the way
@biosmarcel @alvarezp @sir if i was being a prick i would have been calling you a dumbass and telling you to fuck yourself

which i may as well do now, since youve proven yourself to be worthless

@opal @alvarezp @biosmarcel this is the part where I take my leave from this thread, please don't @ me

@opal @sir @alvarezp

>get over yourself, by the way

If you imply me being part of the problem. I am not even a webdev. If missunderstood this, then sorry, am not a native speaker.

@biosmarcel @opal @sir Not my intention to offend, but I have been going through the same argument again and again... and again... and again... most people start with a similar argument. If we were in person with dedicated time it would be way easier. Sorry about this.


What are you sorry for? You haven't done anything wrong ^^

@biosmarcel Yeah, I read the whole thead now. His comment was totally uncalled for. I sometimes come with strict arguments and some people get offended so I thought I was offending. Relieved to see it was not the case. :-)

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