One caveat: We have to protect cryptography.
Crypto must be protected at all costs, it will allow us to work around most everything else. If crypto is outlawed (as in, users or developers face jail-time), we're completely and utterly screwed.
@HerraBRE I absolutely agree about protecting crypto, but I don't agree about not fighting the political fight. We should build tech that's as immune to bad laws as possible under the veil of crypto, but that's only so possible. These aren't mutually exclusive... fighting bad laws / fighting for good ones should happen in tandem with building good tech.
@cwebber I would never actually go so far as to discourage people from fighting these legal battles. What if I'm wrong?
I'm just pointing out a silver lining that has a strategic element to it.
If we want to effectively fight the big companies, we need to understand their weaknesses and where we are stronger.
@HerraBRE I agree with that!
BTW my next post that appeared to be a subtoot of this was well, partly in response to it, but also equally to about 20 different threads I've seen over the last month :)
If you want to compete with Google or Facebook or other big companies, you need to understand that a) they are actually constrained by the law and b) the only computer bigger than their computer, is "everybody else's computer."
Radical decentralization + build software that has features the companies cannot offer for legal reasons.
We just have to be willing to go where the big companies can't. The more censorship there is of "normal" content, the more opportunities there are to do just that.
I'm much more concerned with "the state"(©) (three-letter-agencies) than big companies, therefore I completely disagree with you, because the law obviously works in the states' favor
@Maltimore I don't think we are in conflict.
If systems are built that allow users to relatively safely flout copyright law (for example), it will accidentally also raise the bar and provide cover for other types of non-state-sanctioned comms, including organized resistance.
And it will either thwart or raise significantly the cost of mass surveillance.
Elsewhere in the thread I said I would never object to or try to discourage people from fighting bad laws.
Just pondering a silver lining.
@HerraBRE It's hard to belive it will happend (again). Crypto is necessary to protect key industrial and economical inteligences from others state.
The pressure will be more «when the police ask you to unlock it, you have to do it or go to jail».
.@HerraBRE Also important to protect democracy (right of the people to fire their government). Fact that world empire is run by an elected leader (not Xi or Putin) is significant to the fact that we can actually experiment & bend the rules w/o jail.
@cjd Agreed. There are many fights worth fighting; rule of law (which usually depends on some form of democracy) is too often taken for granted.
@HerraBRE "kill the backdoors, crypto war now."
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